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The Flash cracks me up for how good it is, and because it does what no other show has thought to do in all these years (yes I'm looking at you, Smallville and Gotham): It stars the character from the comic book in his costume, battling his foes from the comic book, acting like he does in the comic book, and just basically BEING THE DAMN COMIC BOOK!!!!

Seriously, how hard was that to figure out?

Gotham isn't bad but everytime I see super-smart agitated prepubescent Bruce Wayne my eyes roll.

Scorpion is pretty awful.

I'm really liking The Flash, too. Not only is it just like the comic, it's well-written, and has seriously talented actors. Plus, casting Shipp as Barry's father was just genius.

OMG, the comments section is way more entertaining than most of what's on tv today. There's either a seriously deranged poster over there or one of the most successful trolls I've ever seen.

What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

brigid_fitch: I'm really liking The Flash, too. Not only is it just like the comic, it's well-written, and has seriously talented actors. Plus, casting Shipp as Barry's father was just genius.

They're bringing Amanda Pays back, too.

Bonus:  Playing the exact same character she did on the 90s show.

texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I thought Grodd was an Easter Egg in the pilot. But ha, he's now a pivotal plot point. If there is no maniacal psychic ape determined to rule the world before the end of this season I will be sad...plus, who is Harrison Welles? Zoom? Or worse?

This is why it's a great show. I DONT KNOW!!!

texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I was never a huge Flash fan but my husband always has been.  His theory is that Wells is Reverse Flash, who is basically psychotic.  In the comics, Reverse Flash traveled from the future to meet his Idol, Flash.  Unfortunately, his coordinates were wrong and he ended up landing a few years after Barry Allen's death.  Between that and his mind being unable to take the toll of time travel, he snapped and went insane.

So, Wells' motivation could be one of two things:  Make sure his timestream stays correct by creating Flash in the first place or build Flash up to Wells' level so that Wells can kill him.

Either way, it's fun to watch that guy work.  He's does creepy sooooo well.

brigid_fitch: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I was never a huge Flash fan but my husband always has been.  His theory is that Wells is Reverse Flash, who is basically psychotic.  In the comics, Reverse Flash traveled from the future to meet his Idol, Flash.  Unfortunately, his coordinates were wrong and he ended up landing a few years after Barry Allen's death.  Between that and his mind being unable to take the toll of time travel, he snapped and went insane.

So, Wells' motivation could be one of two things:  Make sure his timestream stays correct by creating Flash in the first place or build Flash up to Wells' level so that Wells can kill him.

Either way, it's fun to watch that guy work.  He's does creepy sooooo well.


Reverse Flash is why we have DC Comics New 52 reboot for years as well. You wanna know why Superman dates Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane now? Damn straight, Reverse Flash. He's a dick.

Sgt Otter: brigid_fitch: I'm really liking The Flash, too. Not only is it just like the comic, it's well-written, and has seriously talented actors. Plus, casting Shipp as Barry's father was just genius.

They're bringing Amanda Pays back, too.

Bonus:  Playing the exact same character she did on the 90s show.


That's awesome!  Next up, get Mark Hamill to reprise The Trickster!

The problem of course with the theory it's Harrison is well, Iris's boy's name is just too close

Confabulat: brigid_fitch: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I was never a huge Flash fan but my husband always has been.  His theory is that Wells is Reverse Flash, who is basically psychotic.  In the comics, Reverse Flash traveled from the future to meet his Idol, Flash.  Unfortunately, his coordinates were wrong and he ended up landing a few years after Barry Allen's death.  Between that and his mind being unable to take the toll of time travel, he snapped and went insane.

So, Wells' motivation could be one of two things:  Make sure his timestream stays correct by creating Flash in the first place or build Flash up to Wells' level so that Wells can kill him.

Either way, it's fun to watch that guy work.  He's does creepy sooooo well.

Reverse Flash is why we have DC Comics New 52 reboot for years as well. You wanna know why Superman dates Wonder Woman instead of Lois Lane now? Damn straight, Reverse Flash. He's a dick.


Actually it was Barry who screwed things up.  He went back in time to try to save his mother and that created a ripple effect throughout the time stream. He then tried to go back and fix things and that's how we got the new DC verse.

still. I am going to give up all mad props to that show for even letting comic book nerds guess! We know the Reverse Flash will be there. Most of us know what he does. We just don't know who he is yet and we're guessing! That's good TV.

texdent: Actually it was Barry who screwed things up.  He went back in time to try to save his mother and that created a ripple effect throughout the time stream. He then tried to go back and fix things and that's how we got the new DC verse.

Meh. Still Reversey's fault.  (Do they call him Reversey? Cause that's some Saturday morning cartoony)

Point is, oh god, I dunno.

I didn't want to watch Flash. I didn't want another TV commitment. Then my husband put it on and I was like, "Oh man, Tom Cavanagh. Crap, don't make me want to watch this show." And then I was like, "Jesse L. Martin??? Dammit, I don't have time for this show." And now I'm all, "Clancy Motherfarking Brown??? Fine, show, you farking win."

aimtastic: I didn't want to watch Flash. I didn't want another TV commitment. Then my husband put it on and I was like, "Oh man, Tom Cavanagh. Crap, don't make me want to watch this show." And then I was like, "Jesse L. Martin??? Dammit, I don't have time for this show." And now I'm all, "Clancy Motherfarking Brown??? Fine, show, you farking win."

You have a lucky man.

Loving Flash, still love Arrow (although it's getting a little too soap-operay and less Green Arrowy) and I hate to admit it, but I'm enjoying Constantine!

I usually don't get into shows like that (X-Files, Ghost crap, etc), but it's an enjoyable, silly comic book show!

I don't see it lasting on NBC but can see CW picking it up

Confabulat: The Flash cracks me up for how good it is, and because it does what no other show has thought to do in all these years (yes I'm looking at you, Smallville and Gotham): It stars the character from the comic book in his costume, battling his foes from the comic book, acting like he does in the comic book, and just basically BEING THE DAMN COMIC BOOK!!!!

Seriously, how hard was that to figure out?

Gotham isn't bad but everytime I see super-smart agitated prepubescent Bruce Wayne my eyes roll.


The Flash is absolutely generic. I cannot understand why people can say it's anything but ok. None of the characters are anything but cookie cutter and are unrelatable. I think it will get better, but Arrow is still the best show on right now.

aimtastic: I didn't want to watch Flash. I didn't want another TV commitment. Then my husband put it on and I was like, "Oh man, Tom Cavanagh. Crap, don't make me want to watch this show." And then I was like, "Jesse L. Martin??? Dammit, I don't have time for this show." And now I'm all, "Clancy Motherfarking Brown ??? Fine, show, you farking win."

Casting him as Gen. Wade Eiling was perfect, IMHO.

/ I can't think of a better actor for that role.

BS. Constantine is bad ass.

brigid_fitch: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I was never a huge Flash fan but my husband always has been.  His theory is that Wells is Reverse Flash, who is basically psychotic.  In the comics, Reverse Flash traveled from the future to meet his Idol, Flash.  Unfortunately, his coordinates were wrong and he ended up landing a few years after Barry Allen's death.  Between that and his mind being unable to take the toll of time travel, he snapped and went insane.

So, Wells' motivation could be one of two things:  Make sure his timestream stays correct by creating Flash in the first place or build Flash up to Wells' level so that Wells can kill him.

Either way, it's fun to watch that guy work.  He's does creepy sooooo well.


I'm taking a third option with Wells:  He is Reverse Flash/Professor Zoom, but his motivation is different.  We know Flash disappears after some sort of disaster in his time.  Possibly Infinite Crisis, but that seems like a leap.  Either way, I think he came back to prepare Flash to face whatever's coming, make it so he can survive this time around, and he'll do it by any means necessary.  If that means becoming a supervillain himself, Flash's own archnemesis, so be it.  He killed Barry's mother to set Barry's morality and goals down the right path, he orchestrated the disaster that gave Barry his powers, and he'll keep manipulating events from the shadows until he's revealed (end of the season, or next season), at which point he'll switch to operating as a villain, because he thinks it's necessary to do so.

tl;dr:  You ever play Infamous?  Wells is basically Kessler.

Confabulat: Gotham isn't bad but everytime I see super-smart agitated prepubescent Bruce Wayne my eyes roll.

Yeah, part of me thinks it would have been better to have Bruce there for the murder of his parents, and then have him pretty much disappear.  Maybe as the series wraps up (hopefully in a few seasons) flash forward a few years to an older, more gristled Gordon and the return of an early 20-something Bruce Wayne and the whisperings in the underworld of this horrific bat creature screwing up bad guy's rib cages.

I can live with him, though, so long as they don't use him quite as much.  Seeing hints of the Bat coming though could work as long as you don't overdo it, and it's nice to see the birth of The Detective.  We always have live action Batman as a ninja with cool toys, but rarely see the analytic side outside of that one bullet reconstructed from a hole in the wall in The Dark Knight.  What bugs me more is baby Catwoman.  As an adult, you can see a woman like Selena Kyle playing up the whole slinky cat angle, because she's trying to be overtly flirty or sexual.  Take out that part and make a kid do it, it comes off that she's trying way too hard to live up to her "Cat" nickname by overacting her way around town and stalking people.

Flash is... generic.  It's missing something in the translation to the small screen.  The actors are good, the special effects are great, but it still comes off amateurish somehow.  That leaves writing and direction, right?

Sometimes campy works, other times it's just awkward.  Flash does more awkward than not.

(Still liking it, still tuning in, though!)

BalugaJoe: Gotham is great fun.

Yeah, I have a lot of friends who hate it, but I think when they heard "police procedural set in Gotham," they were expecting Dark Knight meets the Wire and were just setting themselves up to be disappointed. It's just loads of sometimes deeply silly fun. When Bullock shouted, "What's altruism?" that show won my heart. And the kid who plays the Penguin is just fantastic.

Shadowknight: Yeah, part of me thinks it would have been better to have Bruce there for the murder of his parents, and then have him pretty much disappear.

But then we wouldn't have gotten the awesomeness of Alfred overseeing Bruce's beating of the school bully.

aimtastic: Shadowknight: Yeah, part of me thinks it would have been better to have Bruce there for the murder of his parents, and then have him pretty much disappear.

But then we wouldn't have gotten the awesomeness of Alfred overseeing Bruce's beating of the school bully.


And not just any bully, the guy who will eventually be Hush

aimtastic: Shadowknight: Yeah, part of me thinks it would have been better to have Bruce there for the murder of his parents, and then have him pretty much disappear.

But then we wouldn't have gotten the awesomeness of Alfred overseeing Bruce's beating of the school bully.


That WAS kind of bad ass.

Shadowknight: Confabulat: Gotham isn't bad but everytime I see super-smart agitated prepubescent Bruce Wayne my eyes roll.

Yeah, part of me thinks it would have been better to have Bruce there for the murder of his parents, and then have him pretty much disappear.  Maybe as the series wraps up (hopefully in a few seasons) flash forward a few years to an older, more gristled Gordon and the return of an early 20-something Bruce Wayne and the whisperings in the underworld of this horrific bat creature screwing up bad guy's rib cages.

I can live with him, though, so long as they don't use him quite as much.  Seeing hints of the Bat coming though could work as long as you don't overdo it, and it's nice to see the birth of The Detective.  We always have live action Batman as a ninja with cool toys, but rarely see the analytic side outside of that one bullet reconstructed from a hole in the wall in The Dark Knight.  What bugs me more is baby Catwoman.  As an adult, you can see a woman like Selena Kyle playing up the whole slinky cat angle, because she's trying to be overtly flirty or sexual.  Take out that part and make a kid do it, it comes off that she's trying way too hard to live up to her "Cat" nickname by overacting her way around town and stalking people.


I  like the rough and tumble Alfred on Gotham.  Especially this week when he drove Bruce to the bullies house to work things out. Then handed Bruce his fathers watch, and Bruce just whipped the bullies ass with it, and Alfred basically told the bully to piss off.

Confabulat: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I thought Grodd was an Easter Egg in the pilot. But ha, he's now a pivotal plot point. If there is no maniacal psychic ape determined to rule the world before the end of this season I will be sad...plus, who is Harrison Welles? Zoom? Or worse?

This is why it's a great show. I DONT KNOW!!!


Harrison Wells is not Zoom.

Possible Spoiler: If I read things right, Zoom is already in the show, as a snake in the grass. Hint: check character names closely.

texdent: aimtastic: Shadowknight: Yeah, part of me thinks it would have been better to have Bruce there for the murder of his parents, and then have him pretty much disappear.

But then we wouldn't have gotten the awesomeness of Alfred overseeing Bruce's beating of the school bully.

And not just any bully, the guy who will eventually be Hush


I KNEW that name sounded familiar.

BalugaJoe: Gotham is great fun.

I like it's a crime drama first and a Batman show second.  The showrunners have the character of the city nailed in; it's gritty, it's crime-ridden, the mobsters and random villains are crazy, power-driven or downright sociopathic.  Then, we see young Bruce in his "tower" overlooking the dirty citizens below like a god waiting for the time is right to descend and purge the unclean from the city.

Then there's the useless Catwoman.

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Confabulat: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I thought Grodd was an Easter Egg in the pilot. But ha, he's now a pivotal plot point. If there is no maniacal psychic ape determined to rule the world before the end of this season I will be sad...plus, who is Harrison Welles? Zoom? Or worse?

This is why it's a great show. I DONT KNOW!!!

Harrison Wells is not Zoom.

Possible Spoiler: If I read things right, Zoom is already in the show, as a snake in the grass. Hint: check character names closely.


I think most already caught Iris's boy toy's name, but Wells is certainly acting the part more effectively.

CBS just needs to put "NCIS:" in front of every shows name and they'll rule the tv world.

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Confabulat: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I thought Grodd was an Easter Egg in the pilot. But ha, he's now a pivotal plot point. If there is no maniacal psychic ape determined to rule the world before the end of this season I will be sad...plus, who is Harrison Welles? Zoom? Or worse?

This is why it's a great show. I DONT KNOW!!!

Harrison Wells is not Zoom.

Possible Spoiler: If I read things right, Zoom is already in the show, as a snake in the grass. Hint: check character names closely.


There's multiple Reverse-Flashes in the DC universe, with similar names and costumes.  It's confusing.  "Zoom" is an ex-cop named Hunter Zolomon.  "Professor Zoom" is a time-traveler from the future named Eobard Thane.

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Confabulat: texdent: What is Harrison Wells end game? Is he trying to make a better future for Barry or a worse one? And damnit, I want to see Grodd in action!

I thought Grodd was an Easter Egg in the pilot. But ha, he's now a pivotal plot point. If there is no maniacal psychic ape determined to rule the world before the end of this season I will be sad...plus, who is Harrison Welles? Zoom? Or worse?

This is why it's a great show. I DONT KNOW!!!

Harrison Wells is not Zoom.

Possible Spoiler: If I read things right, Zoom is already in the show, as a snake in the grass. Hint: check character names closely.


Eh, I dunno. They could be doing something similar to what Arrow did where you get a proto version of the character and then you get the real character later on.  You saw a huge nasty dude in a Deathstroke mask before getting Manu Bennett's awesome turn in the role. You saw the Asian guy on the island in an early form of Green Arrow's outfit on the island before Ollie became the character. You saw Sarah Lance as Canary and she died and now we're seeing Laurel training up to become Canary.

My theory for Wells on Flash is that he'll start out being Reverse/Zoom as a way to keep Barry going the direction he's supposed to go for the future then he'll get killed and we'll find out he's actually Eddie's grandson from the future or something and Eddie will become Zoom.  But who knows. I am still interested in seeing how/if the hottie working at STAR labs ends up Killer Frost.

I'm really enjoying Flash.  It's at least having some fun.  Gotham feels like there's a great show trying to break out of it, but there's a number of things dragging it down.  Catwoman is pointless when she shows up and Barbara Gordon just kills the momentum of the episode whenever she's onscreen.  And I don't know if it's intentional or not, but Jim Gordon comes across as the most bland character in the entire show.  The most interesting part of the show is Penguin.  However, I don't know if having the Penguin's rise as an ongoing B-plot will work long-term.  I kind of think that the show would be better served by focusing on a different villain's story each season to change things up.

Agents of SHIELD has been doing pretty well.  Once Hydra was able to be introduced last season, the quality of the show went up quite a bit.  Mockingbird and her ex also have a fun chemistry.

theflatline: I like the rough and tumble Alfred on Gotham. Especially this week when he drove Bruce to the bullies house to work things out. Then handed Bruce his fathers watch, and Bruce just whipped the bullies ass with it, and Alfred basically told the bully to piss off.

If anyone missed it, the bully was Tommy "Hush" Elliot.

Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I dunno. They could be doing something similar to what Arrow did where you get a proto version of the character and then you get the real character later on. You saw a huge nasty dude in a Deathstroke mask before getting Manu Bennett's awesome turn in the role. You saw the Asian guy on the island in an early form of Green Arrow's outfit on the island before Ollie became the character. You saw Sarah Lance as Canary and she died and now we're seeing Laurel training up to become Canary.

Good list, but I'd add Tommy Merlyn before dear old dad showed up.  When Tommy's last name was first mentioned, everyone who knows Green Arrow's rogues went "oh crap" simultaneously.

Dingleberry Dickwad: I am still interested in seeing how/if the hottie working at STAR labs ends up Killer Frost.

Either her powers are latent, and they'll get triggered when Captain Cold shoots her or something, or there will be a second disaster.  Either way, she'll find out Wells was responsible for the disaster that killed her boyfriend at about the same time, that he did it to trigger Barry's transformation, and she'll lose it and blame Barry for the disaster by proxy.

And speaking of Agents of SHIELD, that city has got to be Attilan, home of the Inhumans.

Gotham is getting much better each week.

  The only problem I've got with it is just a Nerd Problem.  Besides Hush and Catwoman, all of Batman's enemies will be significantly older than him.  If Bat's is in his Thirties, Riddler, Two-Face and Penguin will all be somewhere in their Fifties when he's fighting them.

Also, Constantine's pilot was weak but the rest of the shows have been just outstanding.  I know it's not getting enough viewers though and will weep when it's finally cancelled.

texdent: And speaking of Agents of SHIELD, that city has got to be Attilan, home of the Inhumans.

I would be really surprised if the idea of the Inhumans isn't introduced by the end of the season.  Although I'm not sure if they'll get to the point of showing superpowers from them this season.  They might hold off on that until Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are properly introduced in Avengers 2, depending on how they decide to handle them.

I guess the big question is who Skye turns out to be.  I'm sure she'll develop powers of some sort, probably next season, but there's no way she's anybody particularly important.  I don't think she's a strong enough actor or character to show up much in the Inhumans film.

Last Man on Earth: Dingleberry Dickwad: Eh, I dunno. They could be doing something similar to what Arrow did where you get a proto version of the character and then you get the real character later on. You saw a huge nasty dude in a Deathstroke mask before getting Manu Bennett's awesome turn in the role. You saw the Asian guy on the island in an early form of Green Arrow's outfit on the island before Ollie became the character. You saw Sarah Lance as Canary and she died and now we're seeing Laurel training up to become Canary.

Good list, but I'd add Tommy Merlyn before dear old dad showed up.  When Tommy's last name was first mentioned, everyone who knows Green Arrow's rogues went "oh crap" simultaneously.

Dingleberry Dickwad: I am still interested in seeing how/if the hottie working at STAR labs ends up Killer Frost.

Either her powers are latent, and they'll get triggered when Captain Cold shoots her or something, or there will be a second disaster.  Either way, she'll find out Wells was responsible for the disaster that killed her boyfriend at about the same time, that he did it to trigger Barry's transformation, and she'll lose it and blame Barry for the disaster by proxy.


Yeah, I forgot about Merlyn. Althought we didn't get 2 forms of the villain like we did with a few others, it was a bit of a misdirection. I agree on how we're going to get Killer Frost although I'm leaning more towards a second disaster myself. If we get a second disaster, say during the the upcoming crossover with Arrow, we can get Killer Frost, Vibe (Cisco Ramon), some other villains, and possibly have Laurel get her Canary Cry. Yeah I know they showed Sarah using a sonic device at some point, but I'm thinking that could be a foreshadowing of Laurel getting the ability.

LograyX: The only problem I've got with it is just a Nerd Problem.  Besides Hush and Catwoman, all of Batman's enemies will be significantly older than him.  If Bat's is in his Thirties, Riddler, Two-Face and Penguin will all be somewhere in their Fifties when he's fighting them.

I can accept an older Penguin easily, since he's basically a mob boss.  The other big problem about the villains is that I prefer the idea that it's the existence of Batman that causes these supervillains to come into existence.  Ideally, the show has a major time jump between seasons and we get to basically Batman: Year One, but entirely from Gordon's perspective.

NeoCortex42: texdent: And speaking of Agents of SHIELD, that city has got to be Attilan, home of the Inhumans.

I would be really surprised if the idea of the Inhumans isn't introduced by the end of the season.  Although I'm not sure if they'll get to the point of showing superpowers from them this season.  They might hold off on that until Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are properly introduced in Avengers 2, depending on how they decide to handle them.

I guess the big question is who Skye turns out to be.  I'm sure she'll develop powers of some sort, probably next season, but there's no way she's anybody particularly important.  I don't think she's a strong enough actor or character to show up much in the Inhumans film.


And speaking of Skye, did you catch the name she mentioned? Micro. Sometime ally of the Punisher.

texdent: NeoCortex42: texdent: And speaking of Agents of SHIELD, that city has got to be Attilan, home of the Inhumans.

I would be really surprised if the idea of the Inhumans isn't introduced by the end of the season.  Although I'm not sure if they'll get to the point of showing superpowers from them this season.  They might hold off on that until Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are properly introduced in Avengers 2, depending on how they decide to handle them.

I guess the big question is who Skye turns out to be.  I'm sure she'll develop powers of some sort, probably next season, but there's no way she's anybody particularly important.  I don't think she's a strong enough actor or character to show up much in the Inhumans film.

And speaking of Skye, did you catch the name she mentioned? Micro. Sometime ally of the Punisher.


It is great that Marvel has the Punisher rights again.  He could be done pretty easily on TV, or could probably be done even better as part of the street-level heroes on Netflix next year.

I like Gotham except for the Fish Mooney scenes. I can't tell if she is a crap character or if Pinkett Smith is just a goddam awful actress.

aimtastic: BalugaJoe: Gotham is great fun.

Yeah, I have a lot of friends who hate it, but I think when they heard "police procedural set in Gotham," they were expecting Dark Knight meets the Wire and were just setting themselves up to be disappointed. It's just loads of sometimes deeply silly fun. When Bullock shouted, "What's altruism?" that show won my heart. And the kid who plays the Penguin is just fantastic.


I like him too. I met the guy who plays the Riddler. Nice guy.

The Thawne Zoloman guesses are too obvious.

My favorite theory at the moment is that Harrison Wells is Barry from the future.  Whatever event happened where Flash was lost, it sent him back to the past, now Wells is trying to make sure that his younger self follows a better path to avoid the messed up future.

H Wells... HG Wells, fits in with Barry's humor.  Plus they look the same, and Wells' age would be about right if he disappeared in the future and came back a few years prior to where the show started to set up the particle accelerator.  As to Wells killing people, future Barry from New 52 does that too.

I think Zoom/Professor Zoom will definitely happen, it just won't be Wells.  There's already an Eddie Thawne on the show anyway.

/Wells is future Barry

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